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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby tasosa327 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:48 am

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OSE Class 410 diesel-hydraulic No. 420 pauses at Paleofarsolos on 24th October 1992 at the head of the 05.47 from Pireas to Thessaloniki.Photo by Ray Walkington

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OSE Class 410 diesel-hydraulic No. 420 pauses at Paleofarsolos on 24th October 1992 at the head of the 05.47 from Pireas to Thessaloniki. by Ray Walkington.jpg
OSE Class 410 diesel-hydraulic No. 420 pauses at Paleofarsolos on 24th October 1992 at the head of the 05.47 from Pireas to Thessaloniki. by Ray Walkington
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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby BalkanExpress » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:37 am

Did they were returned to Germany after been retired in Greece? I thought they were scraped there

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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby christo » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:20 pm

They went back to Germany :cry:

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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby BalkanExpress » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:37 pm

Were they hired to DB or why did they came back?

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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby BarbaPanagos » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:03 pm

They were bought and operated by EBW Cargo . According wikipedia, the company does not exist any more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBW_%28rail_company%29

EBW V270.08 Nagold 09/06/09 photo: Werner Brutzer.
more photos here http://www.bahnbilder.de/name/galerie/k ... Cargo.html

EBW V270.08 Nagold 09.06.09.jpg


a video from Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asAtXxj ... re=related

V200 der EBW Cargo .jpg


and their "last travel in Greece" from KGOGIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn1N3ojRK6s

LAST TRAVEL FOR THE KRAUSS MAFFEI V221 IN GREECE.jpg
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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby BarbaPanagos » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:23 pm

what a mess!!! :shock:

If I get it right the OSE Br221s were returned to Germany in 2003.
Were they bought all of them by EBW? or by somebody else?
The truth is that in 2011 were some of them still waiting to be refurbished...

Works seems to have taken place at the Arriva Werke Nord GmbH which now is renamed to NETINERA, and belons to the Ferrovie dello Stato Group :?
http://www.netinera.de/de/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netinera


23 April 2011 at Arriva Works Nord Neustrelitz, OSE 430 (ex.DB 221 137) & OSE 428 (ex.DB 221 138) photo: Mirko Schmidt http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschla ... april.html

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422 (ex DB 221 119) at Arrivawerk Neustrelitz 23. April 2011 photo: Mirko Schmidt http://bahnfotokiste.startbilder.de/bil ... unter.html

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Arriva-Werk Neustrelitz, 416, 04/05/07 photo: Jörg Trutwig http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschla ... inige.html

arriva-werk-neustrelitz-v200-416-einige-387165.jpg


one of the OSE locos in Arriva Werk Neustrelitz, 29/03/08 photo: Jörg Trutwig http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschla ... b-das.html

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let's wait for somebody else who knows more...

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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby TEE1055 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:03 pm

Together with the blue lettering for the Alsthom, i have planned to make letterings for A 411 (different paint scheme) and A 427.

Rentis, 3. October 1996:

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But until today, i can`t find pictures with readable side-lettering of the prototype. Can anybody help?
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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby TEE1055 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:52 am

10 of the former OSE "Ufos" are refurbished in Neustrelitz and equipped mainly with new diesel motors. These locomotives are sold to various private operators in Germany. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_V_200.1 under "Verbleib".
The rest are scraped exept the 221 112 (OSE 421), because of the poor condition and the changement of the management policy at the works of Neustrelitz. Many spare parts are keept for the existing locomotives.
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Re: 411 - 430 ex DB br221

Postby BarbaPanagos » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:41 pm

TEE1055 wrote:... But until today, i can`t find pictures with readable side-lettering of the prototype. Can anybody help?



Johannes, I don't know if anybody else has helped you with your request.
I don't have any photos of mine, actually I've never even seen a UFO when they were down here... :oops:
I'll have a look if I have any photo at the downloaded ones.

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