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Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby Olympus » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:16 pm

Zδ 341-350 2' C h2 + 2'2'T Humboldt,Schwartzkopff, Schicau, Borsig, Linke Hofmann 1907-17 No. 346 and 350 carried 6 wheeled tenders. Ex KPEV Class P8 Esn2461, Elb2452, 2467, Stn2407, Bsl2413, Stn 2472, 2447, 2411, Kat 2429 & 2460 respectively. Armistice locos given to Greece after WW1 as German Rehabilitation.

At Italy is to time the Novergro fair

I found this new loco from OS.KAR; BR38
can we take this loco for Zd341 or Zd349 ?

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http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 449610.jpg

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http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 449640.jpg

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http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 449687.jpg

more photos;

http://www.ferrovie.info/forum/viewtopi ... 30#p293243
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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby christo » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:42 pm

Andy,
Which Ζδ you can do depends on the wheel spacing of the tender axles. Here is a poor scan of dimensions. Maybe someone has a clearer one.

zd scan1.gif

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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby christo » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:33 am

After a lot of Tim's research...


BM Zd341.jpg

tender 341

BM Zd342,3,7,9.jpg

tender 342,3,7,9

BM Zd346, Zd350.jpg

tender 346,50



BM Zd348.jpg

tender 348


BM Zd341 DEG.jpg

Photo from Die Eisenbahnen Griechenlands. Note this is 341 with the larger tender. This was never fully loaded so as to comply with the axle load weight restrictions.

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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:49 am

thanks Christo and Tim, these drawings are most helpful!
I'm glad to see that my Fleisman is just right for the BalkanModels Ζδ349 plates I have :D


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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby christo » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:53 am

for 346 try the TRIX 22333 model ;)

BM Zd model br38 trix.jpg


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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby BarbaPanagos » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:15 pm

for the Ζδ349 I got this one from Fleischmann, I'll look for the number later

FLEISCHMANN Ζδ349.jpg
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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby GAZKGK » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:34 pm

The tender of Ζδ 350 was converted to a weed-killing vehicle (together with the tenders of Ηδ 441 Ια 704, Κα 883 and 891) and some of them surely existed untill the late 1990s. I surely have a photo (not mine) of one or two... Maybe, when i find them i will upload them.
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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby Olympus » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:40 am

Good morning

Video from Nuremberg fair / Os.Kar
from minute 3:33 - 4:15 the P8 with fine Details and you can open the smoke chamber door...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO213652-5w
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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby christo » Tue May 06, 2014 11:40 pm

BM DR Zd.jpg

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Re: Steam locomotives SEK Ζδ341 - Ζδ350 ex-DRG P8

Postby christo » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:16 pm

'The railways of Central Greece', a Greek language book, contains on page 304 a photo of a P8 with number 350 on the buffer beam. This is a version with round roof and two domes.

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