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Steam locomotives SEK Εγ241 - Εγ243 ex-SM BORSIG 1912

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:27 am
by christo
Eγ 241 - 243 1' C h2 + 3T Βorsig 1912 Ex SM No. 521–23 respectively. As JZ 20

BM IN Eg a.jpg


BM IN Eg b.jpg

Both photos off the internet showing the same unidentified Εγ over a bridge. Please help me with the source of these photo so we can credit them correctly.

BM IN Eg c.jpg

Photo off the internet showing 241 damaged after the German occupation of Greece in WWII.

BM IN Eg523.jpg

Photo off the internet showing 523 with original plate possibly in SM days.

christo.

Re: Steam locomotives SEK Εγ241 - Εγ243 ex-SM BORSIG 1912

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:45 am
by jsimantov
Hi everyone,

Thanks Christo for the new posts!

Pix 1 and 2 have already been the subject of a long discussion in Drehscheibe. The conclusion reached was that the engine shown is probably a JZ series 20, mainly because there is no record that the Eγ were ever coupled to a 4-wheel tender. Now, this is obviously a wartime pic (hence the 'V') and any combination may have occurred... any update is welcome!

I have posted myself Pic 3 quite a while ago; the pic comes from the OSE Bureau of Public Relations, and it has also been the subject of a lengthy discussion with SEK/OSE staff. The main issue was the 'Th' marking, which according to a retired SEK driver, indicated 'Theben' and not 'Thessaloniki'. Apparently, the Germans had built a huge marshalling yard at the Thiva Station, which included a reversing triangle. The yard has been destroyed, but the trace of the triangle was visible until recently in aerial pix. The engine itself does not show any bomb damage, its state suggests decaying through abandonment rather.. The same source added that the yard was built by Jewish prisoners before they were deported.

I searched Google Maps for any visible trace of that yard, without success; anyway, the site has been occupied for years by a Gypsy camp, therefore all traces may have been obliterated (hence the nickname "Gyftenburg" for Thebes among OSE staff!!)

I don't know the origin of Pic 4...

Any update or correction is of course more than welcome!

Iossif

Re: Steam locomotives SEK Εγ241 - Εγ243 ex-SM BORSIG 1912

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:40 pm
by christo
BM DR Eg.jpg

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christo.